I (56M) was looking forward to a quiet and peaceful life with my wife (55F) when the last of my children left home but now 2 of my children (30F, 28M), their partners and 5 of my grandchildren all live with us. And my wife won’t hear a word about making them move out.

A Redditor shared his frustration with his children and grandchildren moving in after facing financial struggles, disrupting his peaceful life. Despite his longing for a quiet home, his wife is fully supportive of their extended family staying, leaving him overwhelmed and unsure of how to address the situation. Read the full story below.

‘ I (56M) was looking forward to a quiet and peaceful life with my wife (55F) when the last of my children left home but now 2 of my children (30F, 28M), their partners and 5 of my grandchildren all live with us. And my wife won’t hear a word about making them move out.’

Sorry if this is poorly written I have never used Reddit before, I was discussing the situation with my son \[not one of those who lives with me\] and he suggested making this post. I have always been an introverted man, my ideal night is a quiet one in-front of the tv with my wife.

I loved raising my 3 kids and was sad to see them go when they left but was also happy that they was living their own lives and I could enjoy the piece and quiet that I hadn’t had for a long time. All of my children are married now, my eldest (32M) is living a successful life with his wife and children.

But my daughter quickly lost her job and couldn’t find a new one and relied on her husband’s (31M) wages but had 3 children (6F, 5M, 3F) despite it not really being financially viable. They fell behind on rent and couldn’t support themselves so they all moved in with my wife and I.

Then my other son and his wife (26F) had 2 children (4M, 1F) and they made a lot of financially bad decisions including buying an expensive car from a unreliable person. It turns out the car was stolen and it was taken by the authorities and my son lost a lot of money on it. They too couldn’t keep up with bills and looking after their children so moved in with us. My wife welcomed them with open arms.

My wife enjoys the quiet life like me but she is also more of an extrovert and she loves having the kids and grand-kids around. But this is a nightmare, I thought my days of being a parent and running after kids was over but it feels like I am doing it now more than ever.

I shouldn’t have too put up with this at my age I have done my job as a parent and I shouldn’t have to do it again. I get no peace at all I can’t read a book for 5 mins without being interrupted by a screaming child. It’s horrible having 11 people crammed into one house, granted it’s a big house but still.

Even going to toilet is such a pain because I always have to wait for multiple of my family members to go first. What’s really annoying is that everyone else seems very happy with this arrangement. I know they are all looking for jobs but I don’t particularly see them putting in maximum effort to find somewhere else to stay.

I am really reaching the end of my tether and when i tried to talk to my wife about it she was appalled with me saying that you don’t stop being a parent once your kids move out and I should help them in their time of need. I sort of feel like she is right but at the same time I just can’t stand this anymore. What do I do?

TL;DR- My grown up kids, their partners and their children have all moved in with me and my wife. Ruining my ideal quiet life

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livingdream111 −  This is such a tough situation. I’m sure everyone is trying to make the most of it. Try to sit the kids down and work through two plans. 1) you need breaks from the chaos. This means that your kids need to take the grandkids out of the house for long stretches a few days a week.

Lots of things are still closed from coronavirus but they can go on hikes and picnics. 2) they need a long term commitment on finding work and moving out. This is stickier because the job market is so weird right now. But they need a plan.

They need to work out budgets to figure out the minimum amount they need to make to afford an apartment and move out. Then apply for every single job in that salary range. You can do this. It’s tough times for everyone and it’s good to watch out for your family but you definitely need some relief.

runningjake −  I’m not a parent but when my coworker needs a nap he tells the kids to wake him up in half an hour so they can clean the house together. Tells them about all the fun they’ll have doing chores together and they do anything to avoid waking him up.

[Reddit User] −  Sit down with your wife and come up with a game plan together so you’re on the same page. You should emphasize for her ‘I don’t want to throw them out, I just want to set a timeline so that they continue to look- there’s a big difference between saving them when they’re in trouble once in a while and babying them so they never become independent adults. We’re they’re parents- we need to teach them to stand on their own two feet.’

Then sit down with each of the pairs of couples (seperately) and say ‘you know we love you, you know we support you, but we’re on month X of this and it’s time to start thinking of what is going to come next. Your mother and I were happy to take you in but it’s time for us to enjoy a quiet retirement- so talk to us about your plan for transitioning out of here? We’re not going to throw you out tomorrow but it is time to start communicating about what comes next, and when.’

Whoever moved in first should probably get a bit more pressure to move than whoever moved in second. BUT I’ve gotta say, as someone who’s also unemployed and job hunting during the corona pandemic… it might be a little while longer! I apply for five jobs a day every single day for the last three months.

One, I applied on the day it was posted and went back a week later and there were more than 1000 other applicants. I’m applying for stuff in my field I’m badly overqualified for and not getting interviews. I’m editing my MA off my resume and applying for jobs bagging groceries, working in fast food chains, mopping floors and answering lines in call centres and I’m not getting interviews.

What you perceive as them ‘not really trying’ might really be there not being jobs. There is NOT a lot of work out there, and a LOT of unemployed people out there. You might have a few more months of this ahead of you.

What you could also think about is some new household rules in the meantime that subtly make it easier on you; quiet time Sundays or ‘everyone has to leave to go on a hike somewhere nice and socially distanced’ Tuesdays.

A bathroom upstairs that is off limits to kids. More coping skills for you that subtly make you more comfortable and them slightly more inconvenienced, to make it survivable in the meantime and to continue to light a fire under them to look for the next thing.

sweetpeppah −  At very least, set some boundaries with all of the people in the house. Schedule quiet/do not disturb times for yourself; maybe have some places off limits to grandchildren. Decide together who is responsible for what childcare, meals, cleaning/chores. Treat them more like roommates than your children, expect them to chip in and be respectful of your time and space.

Let them know you care about them but this is a major imposition and you would love to see them back on their own two feet asap! And maybe they could get you some noise cancelling headphones for fathers day!

yiayia_ −  You’re still they’re dad and they’re adults. Talk to them. Work out a game plan. They’re not going to get their situation sorted overnight, especially in a pandemic. But, you should be cool as a cucumber having hard conversations with your adult children. What’s the internet gonna tell you that you and your kids don’t already know?

They need to be working on moving out (which I think they are) and sometimes you have to love your children more than you love your quiet. You can even talk to them about how you’re lacking a need for quiet and solitude. I think your family can help you more than we can.

HighOnGoofballs −  A) make them contribute significantly while they are there. That means cooking and cleaning and contributing financially. This should not be just a free ride

B) is it possible to dedicate either some place in the house or build some sort of man-shed where you can escape? You definitely need somewhere quiet you can get away, you’ve earned it

prairieluv −  Ah, there is a traditional Jewish story about this. Man goes to his rabbit with same issue. Rabbi says to bring his goat into the house. Man comes back a few days later saying Rabbi, that was a terrible idea. Rabbi says, you’re right. The goat wasn’t enough, bring your sheep into the house too.

Man come back a few days later saying rabbit now it’s worse than before. Rabbit says you’re right. The goat and sheep aren’t enough. Bring your cow into your house too. Man comes back a few days later and says Rabbi this is impossible. Everyone is cramped, the house is bedlam and it smells horrible. No matter what you say, I can’t bring in any more animals. The rabbi says you are right. Take them all back out.

The Man comes back three days later. Rabbi, thank you, thank you for the peace you have brought back to our home. So, my suggestion to you would be…. Get a goat

kellysouthpaw −  I identify with your kids so I would like to share my story, briefly, if I may. I am a 33 yr old female. My parents are only a couple of years older than you. When I was 19 I had zero self esteem and got into a relationship with the first guy who showed me any attention (shocker, he was a dirtbag) and I ended up pregnant.

That guy ended up stealing a bunch of money from me so I kicked him out and there I was: 21, single mom, no prospects. Working retail but unable to make ends meet and getting no child support whatsoever.

My mom welcomed my son and I back home with open arms. Conversely, my dad (like you) had felt he had “done his time” parenting and no longer felt it was their job to help me. That it was “sink or swim” time for me.

I could feel the contention. Every day living at home I could sense how much he DIDN’T want me there. And it made me feel awful. I didn’t want to be a burden – I didn’t want to cause tension between my parents, either. And yet, there I was, being a burden and causing tension.

Anyway, I went back to college and got my degree in a healthcare related field. Just a few years after moving in I was able to move back out and financially support my son and myself on my income, alone. My mom died suddenly just six months after I moved out.

My dad got remarried. And he got to have the child-free retirement he always wanted. I have stayed away – precisely because of how he spoke about what a burden I was – because of how he treated me with such contention when I needed help.

I might see him a few times a year but I wouldn’t consider us “close” and I wouldn’t consider our relationship “happy”. That’s the thing – I knew he didn’t want me there. He told me so. And it made me feel awful. As a child you rely on your parents for everything: but especially love and protection.

That need doesn’t necessarily go away when you hit 18 just because the law says you’re an adult now. To have my dad turn his back on me when I desperately needed his love and support at 21 was a betrayal I will never forget.

And now, ten years into his retirement the luster of the quiet life of being with his new wife has worn off. Taking the camper out, mowing the lawn, watching TV all day has gotten boring. And he has started reaching out to me to reconnect. And I do not reply to his communications.

A child’s need for their parent doesn’t stop at age 18. Turning your back on them now might get you the quiet you want but it may irreparably damage your relationship with them – and your grandkids, by extension. Think carefully about how you want to handle this.

I know you may crave the quiet life with just your wife now – but what about 10 yrs down the road when your kids and grandkids want nothing to do with you because you pushed them out in their hour of need because you wanted quiet time? How they will feel betrayed that their father didn’t love them enough to support them when they needed help? They will carry that with them for the rest of their life.

[Reddit User] −  I had moved back in with my parents when I was in my mid-twenties, albeit under different circumstances than you describe. One if the things I appreciated then was that it gave me the chance to develop an adult relationship with them. Do you feel like you have an adult relationship with your kids? If so, then you should talk about this with them directly. If not, then you (and your wife) need to establish one.

Being a parent is for life, but now that your kids are parents themselves they should understand that your time to yourself is important, and respect that. I’d suggest you also tell your wife that part of what you feel like you’re missing out on is quality time with her!

The best thing you can do is to be both open and supportive. Don’t let your kids and grandkids know you resent them being there. Do let your kids know you’re expecting them to be actively trying to get back on their own feet. Try to encourage rather than push.

[Reddit User] −  Helping family is a noble thing, but help should always come with limits. Letting them live with you for six months is perfectly fine, but beyond that creates and environment of enablement where the bird comes back to the nest and has no motivation to leave. So long as that time limit exists and there is some stress on them, it should be fine for you both.

How would you handle this situation if you were in the husband’s shoes? Do you think he should have a bigger say in the living arrangements, or is he being too rigid? Share your thoughts below!